Curse

Legally · Jan 12, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

If you bother paying attention to the game, shame isn't exactly hard to pre veil.

Isnt so hard to Drain it or shatter it either is it?

Maybe it is.. i dunno..

elektra_lucia · Jan 12, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Why do you pick on such a small sentence and not bother to read? It's already answered...

This is text.

As in...

You can scroll up.

Re read.

You don't have to have someone repeat it.

You may be deaf.

This is no excuse...

Are you blind?

Maybe you are.

I dunno...

In which case I won't answer again...

Even though I mock people for having to repeat for them...

You find a new way...

To impress me...

With your stupidity.

On a serious note, I don't get why people quote such a small amount of text and then argue with it. Why bother? Like, seriously. Can anyone give a serious explanation to it?

Do You like the new func pad? It is king and as strong as horses.

Now you can quote this, or you can do it your way.

Do You like the new func pad? It is king and as strong as horses.

If you take things out of their context, they look wrong. so please, to the next person that puts in such obvious sarcasm and wants to argue. Please don't. Get your fat fingers off your keyboard and back into that KFC tub.

Tab · Jan 12, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Is it impossible to have a single half decent thread in the HA forums?

elektra_lucia · Jan 12, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Veil is not hard to interrupt/strip if you are watching them.

Fake veil, cover in a rof; regardless, if he does manage to PD veil then he isn't going to shame you on a spike anyway (PD disables skills). Regular shame is no problem, just low set, cast 5 energy spell, go to normal set. If you infuse on a shame your mid line/frontline has messed up.

Yes because people get consumed by emotion and due to the nature of my post and how I like to debate people quickly judge me as arrogant, obnoxious etc. As they do not have quarter of my intelligence they try to pick on a fraction of my post taking it out of context and therefore voiding their argument to begin with.

Considering that I post in many threads, this happens quite a lot.

Perhaps if people searched 'raise your I.Q' into google this would help. Donated money should go to scientists to find new ways of increasing humans intelligence... Instead of the starving Kids in Africa, who when fat, will do nothing except rap about how they were starving. By this time, I have a feeling a-net will have nerfed everything such that you have to pay one million and one gold to cast a spell.

There is like, little to not point in being serious. The humour is bad too, you can't be sarcastic without having to spell it out to people. So the sarcasm becomes all the same.

P.S. Apparently it is wrong to interrupt a quick skill in order to learn to improve at the game, but it is right to waste 10+ energy with a high recharge on removing reversal of fortune that has a quick recharge and a quicker cast than the enchant removal, not to mention lower energy.

P.P.S. Let me guess, you people that bitch about people like me who don't talk on mic much don't know how to ask for a rof as a cover enchant on an HB monk? xD...

Shadowspawn X · Jan 12, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

Sorry that it looked like I was completely defending the idea of going on 1/4 second casts all the time (as a mesmer). I guess I figured people would have more intelligence than to just look at my post and pick on that with such detail.

It doesn't have anything to do with other peoples intelligence. It has to do with it just being terrible advice and bad practice. No ones insulting you and they don't need to be insulted in return for calling BS when they see it.

elektra_lucia · Jan 12, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

If you actually look at what I wrote. I explained about the enemy changing weapon, his movement will change, kiting will change. It wasn't just about spamming PD to get a 1/4 second cast. It also wasn't just about interrupting zaishen. It was to learn a bit about interrupting, without just using a 6 foot zoom lens on the enemies skill display so you can quickly interrupt. It was about judging the game, to also know when to interrupt.

To know what is coming next, when it is coming.

People have natural patterns. Sure, I personally will stop, wait a bit and cast but you can't always do this vs spikes. Iway, easy crap. Spikes not so.

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No ones insulting you

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These 3 skills are NOT WORTH INTERUPTING because you are gambling with your interupts.
If you are talking about using PD to do so, then this is what I call a PD frenzy noob.

This was some what offensive, especially as he took it out of context.

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and they don't need to be insulted in return for calling BS when they see it.

I guess that's the good thing about me then isn't it? I play -EVERY- profession better than you, and what's more. You think my advice in order to improve is bad. So you'll never be as good as me.

<3 you.

On a serious note. Do yourself a favour. Go into HA, play in random way or ANYTHING I don't care, just try interupt rof/spiritbond/infuse with PD. I know it may sound retarded, but just try it before you knock it.

You being anyone that has difficulty interrupting.

When you do this, don't just go to interrupt it, judge the whole game. Damage intake/outtake. Enemies weapon and what he has, what you think his energy might be. What he previously casted. How long he generally waits to cast when he stops kiting. Try to absorb all the information until it becomes instinctive.

After doing this for a while, try to interrupt 1 second casts.

Don't do this method in a serious group. Do it in like free time I guess xD.

Phe Belladona · Jan 12, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

dont sit and try interupting 1/4 sec casts its pointless, you will eventually get some BUT interupting them usually has a small effect on the game DIVERTING them tho will have a delicious effect.

while elektra isnt giving great advice on the interupting the predicting and learning patterns to stuff is good, and elektra Shame is a very good skill used correctly it breaks teams or at least gets spikes through on its own sure not impressive but with pleak on channeling (and draining the current) followed by Shamng with good timing (this is where predictiong comes in - except you dont need to be correct to within a 1/4sec error you can be up to 1 sec off depending on the pressure your team is outputting) you've just broken a monk, divert and enchant remove the other, once pleak is recharged (or diversion if you're confident on timing) nail the channeling again wait for spike shame it the monk will either switch up and be energy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed forever OR you'll kill something. either way Shame is excellent applied well. im not going to cover veil cause it wont stop you unless you're a TERRIBLE migraine mesmer, a dom mesmer can eat veil up through interupts or just taking the elongated cast into consideration (i wouldnt bother draining the monk will remove veil itself to get a hex off and your enchant strips are for channeling or spiked targets)

Shame is good elektra i know it and you know it.

oh and as for the topic just be the first to run in (speed boost doesnt do anything) you can get it.. its a 1second cast.. if you cant hit them 99% of the time (lag and sleepiness 1%) stop playing mesmer in pvp go practise and come back later

elektra_lucia · Jan 13, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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dont sit and try interupting 1/4 sec casts its pointless, you will eventually get some BUT interupting them usually has a small effect on the game DIVERTING them tho will have a delicious effect.

So what if he loses the game because of it? If it helps him in future games because his brain learnt something then it will help, yes? Why do you and OTHERS always think about THE match and not the FUTURE match or how you might be in the FUTURE? I really can't understand how people work. Why do they want to limit themselves into improving so slowly.

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while elektra isnt giving great advice on the interupting the predicting and learning patterns to stuff is good, and elektra Shame is a very good skill used correctly it breaks teams or at least gets spikes through on its own sure not impressive but with pleak on channeling (and draining the current) followed by Shamng with good timing (this is where predictiong comes in - except you dont need to be correct to within a 1/4sec error you can be up to 1 sec off depending on the pressure your team is outputting) you've just broken a monk

... A retarded monk that doesn't switch to low energy set. Sure. I agree. Or a monk that is on a team that completely fails and because of it casting too much and/or can barely switch into low set.

You could have a team balling up in savannah heat. Just an example. The prot monk is spamming every skill he can, and the enemy team has balled up too, so he may get some energy to do this. This means he is an easy target for a mesmer.

Does this mean the mesmer broke the game? No. The team did for playing crap.

Shame comes in every 30 sec or so. The team doesn't warn of shame incoming and the other monk is blind of what hexes are comming, in this rare situation that the prot monk doesn't rof and then spirit bond, he gets shamed when he goes to spirit bond the spike. The spike goes through. Did the mesmer break the game? No. I should think in such situation the infuser should actually consider infusing. Even though it is a situation he may not normally infuse. Supposing the infuser was the one that was spiked. That means every other character on your team that does any form of damage is near free to do as he wish. There should be no reason for them NOT to interrupt the shame or interrupt some of the spike.

People make mistakes and shame can capitalize on that but for a good team I think it is severely over rated. This is what I explained a while ago. It seems you want to harass me with this argument.

In my opinion, if the situation was the prot got shamed and they spiked the infuser. They could of just KD'd the prot and spiked while it was on the ground...

KD's aren't usually 30 second recharges.

R O C K Y · Jan 13, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

1- You should be able to interrupt any 1sec skills with reaction alone (i.e. see the skill then interrupt and not prediction) easy even with a semi good connection and with a good ping 3/4 sec also.

2-If they cast wards before you get there then it tells you that you must have a speed boost or you cant always do it.

So if you want to PD the wards in the zaishen 100% of the time then you must have A- speed boost B- semi good connection.

If you have both A and B and still fail then you suck and must learn skill pictures better.

God Apprentice · Jan 13, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Mainly you should be looking for some key spells/skills:
[skill]Song Of Concentration[/skill]
[skill]Flesh Of My Flesh[/skill]
[skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Ward Against Melee[/skill]

The list could go on.

PD Ele's attunements

In the case of IWAY, make the Spirit Spammer cry.

moko · Jan 14, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

private messages exist for a reason.

Elrodien · Jan 14, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

Perhaps if people searched 'raise your I.Q' into google this would help. Donated money should go to scientists to find new ways of increasing humans intelligence... Instead of the starving Kids in Africa, who when fat, will do nothing except rap about how they were starving...

lol elektra thats so p.c.